Guest Paul L Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Help! I have a recurring problem with my 1997 Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Manual or auto transmission?Heard some storied that with an auto, when you keep your foot on the brake pedal at rest after stopping, heat transfer through pads can warp discs - same for manual if you keep your foot on the brake pedal rather than using handbrake. (With auto, do the same but also put car into N).Other than that, puzzles me unless you drive in an unusual way! Quote
Guest Paul L Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Car is a manual. I've not heard that particular theory before and to be honest, I find it a bit hard to believe! The car is actually my wife's and I'd say she drives it 90% of the time and in fairness to her, she's a good driver. She drives 'normally' and doesn't hover on or hammer the brakes. The car's only mine when it goes wrong which, unfortunately, is too often! I seem to be the only person who's Galaxy is a bit of a 'duffer' and to be honest, it's put me off having another in the future. Regards Paul Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Ivor is correct. Dependant on several factors, the material composition of the rotors being one, the sustained contact of the pads on hot disc rotors can cause localised cooling (the opposite of a hot spot) in one sector of the rotor. This has the effect of distorting the rotor. Some vehicles are more prone than others...autos more so. Which disc is causing the problem? You are measuring what? In your case, the cause is more likely due to either poor quality discs (Brembo are Italian and therefore suspect, Remoco, in Stockport, are no more than a scrap yard - and not Ford approved) OR you aren't being particular enough about the mating face of the hub when fitting new discs (what run-out are you measuring?). Discs would normally wear out at 50-100k miles before replacement, again dependant on usage and pad material. Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 i think sometimes ,cheap pads and discs are not the best answerive had a lot of cars that have had this problem,and a lot of time its as ivor and sa said before foot resting.cheap discs get warp very quicklythen u got down the frog,and shudder all threw the steering wheel when u brake james Quote
william Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 I get a similar problem of vibrating steering wheel when braking from 60-70 mph but nothing at low speed. 00' TDI 110 Auto 45k Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 i had this a lot .not on my gal,but older cars ive hadi found the mk2 grannys the worst,they shook so much u thought the wheel was gonna come off :lol: james Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Wheel vibration doesn't necessarily mean (badly) warped discs. Suspension problems (compliance bushes on Scorpio/Granada/Mondeo/Sierra particularly so) all amplify even very minor disc warpage.... Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 o yes i know that sabut the mk2 grannys where well know for this problemhad over 10 mk2 grannys,most of them was gits for doing this all the best james Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 do u mean the tca`s sa Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Yep, there is a bush (soft if genuine Ford) that sits about half way along the TCA. This bush pair has the antiroll bar going thru it. QH do a better version. Jim, you may remember being able to tell when they were goosed by the way the front wheels could be moved back and forward! Mondeo doesn't have same arrangement, but the two bushes on the bottom wishbone give the same effect - regularly! Mk1 and 2 Granny had double wishbones - not prone like the Mk 3 Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 its like going back in time :lol: i remember the old sierra`s tca`s if u put on v cheap ones for about Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 Cortina Mk3/4/5 rear axle bushes - the dreaded VOID bushes! Still have the tool to change them! What a larf they were... Quote
Guest dmc Posted September 30, 2003 Report Posted September 30, 2003 i have had a warped disc problem using genuine ford parts.had about six sets in 18 months/7000miles. still haven't found a cure though. Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 boy the cortina`s seem donks ago now with them nasty vv carbs,changed the inlet put in twin webbers dont see many about now days :lol: Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 dmc.... you have a problem elsewhere with the brakes then. Probably a fitting problem, a hub problem or a sticking caliper. Which disc causes the problem? The discs' runout on each wheel should be measured. Then it narrows down the problem to one wheel. Then the problem can be addressed. Suggest you change your garage for one with competence. Quote
Guest Paul L Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Thanks to everyone for the info. Applied a bit of logic to the problem in the end and aligned that with some of your suggestions. Conclusion, buy a set of genuine Ford discs and pads. Why? Firstly, the car's service history makes no mention of replacement front discs/pads. The car had 49,500 miles on the clock when I bought it, therefore, I have to assume that the discs I replaced at 51,500 miles were original. Secondly, Ford's were actually much cheaper than I thought they'd be. I purchased a set of discs and pads today from Atlantic Ford in Stockport for Quote
Guest SA Intruder Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 I am not a fan of Italian anything, except food and wine! It is more about durability than anything. Design flair is somewhat skin deep, it seems. I have owned an Italian car and looked after one or two. Not an altogether fantastic experience. Of all the Italian white goods we have owned, none have lasted very long. Perhaps the worst experience was with my gorgeous, but utterly unreliable Ducati. I have never p**sed so much time and money away in my life. And don't even mention Brembo brakes.... I now truly believe that Italian plastic rusts. Perhaps I wear the jaded mantle on this.....forgive me. Quote
Guest EMDEE Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 Chi sono voi che denominate il crap, voi tosser inglese? Quote
Ivor_E_Tower Posted October 1, 2003 Report Posted October 1, 2003 SA I, you're right, Italian plastic does rust! We had a Fiat Uno some years ago now, and one of the inner wing under-bonnet splashguards disintegrated. It took about 1 hour to find the panel on the dealer's microfiche system (this is going back to late 1980's) because it was not clear whether it was a body panel, or an under-bonnet item and yes, it was made of plastic (at least the replacement one was). Quote
Guest Paul L Posted October 2, 2003 Report Posted October 2, 2003 Er, seemed to have started something here! I have learned one thing though. The Italian for tosser appears to be tosser!!!!!! Regards Paul Quote
Guest Paul L Posted October 2, 2003 Report Posted October 2, 2003 Like I said, a tosser is a tosser in anyones language!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
Guest JIMSTDI Posted October 2, 2003 Report Posted October 2, 2003 a paul whats up anyway do u come from italy,is that whats upset u all the best james :lol: Quote
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